View Full Version : Can A 4.6 GT Handle The Turbo
4.6Turbo
08-04-2003, 01:08 PM
Okay i posted many fourms about me turbo charging my 01 gt.....but i keep hearing split decisions about if the gt can handel the power on a stock bottom end ....the turbo i want is the turbolocity..they say that this turbo on a stock 2v makes 430rwhp at 8psi on a safe tune...
THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW!(ONLY RESPONED IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT)
how many RWHP can a 2v gt handel......without the worry of anything bad happening like a rod shooting trough my hood.....i want to know what is a safe rwhp on the stock bottom end(DAILY DRIVER). i need this car to run strong and good without anything happening to it due to the rwhp. i dont want the car on borrowed time if you know what i mean!
the first mod i am going to put in my car is the turbo so i have to know if it will be fine
p.s
8 psi is to much i am going to put it at 4-6psi on a real SAFE TUNE until i get my bottom end!
Quikcpe
08-04-2003, 01:14 PM
get it, and run low boost until you get the bottom end stronger? just run 4-6 psi like u said nothing to jurastic imo.
Fosters
08-04-2003, 01:24 PM
turbo is going to be your first mod? power is pretty damn useless if you can't put it to the ground... i'd invest in some suspension and stickys first...
Barry
08-04-2003, 01:28 PM
This is probably a better question for the people in the Power adder forum...
Fosters
08-04-2003, 02:19 PM
post again in the same forum, who knows, maybe the more you spam the more people will answer...
:retard:
GarrettW
08-04-2003, 02:20 PM
The only surefire answer to your question is zero horsepower. Only at zero horsepower will you not have to ever worry about things breaking. Anything above that increases your chances of mechanical failure at a rate consistent to the amount of power you are generating. It's all a game of statistics and you have to deem what is an acceptable risk to you. This is how automakers build cars to begin with. They select parts that allow them to match whatever reliability rates they are trying to achieve. Adding a turbo or any power adder will definately increase your chances of experienceing a failure. Using quality parts from a company who has engineered a well though out package can reduce this chance to some degree but all in all it's pretty much about risk anaylisis.
With quality parts and a well put together system it is my supposition that you can have factory like reliability up to about 300rwhp. After that your probablity of catastrophic failure goes up. With the numbers you are talking about I would put your chances of failure at "medium" (with stock being "very low" and 600rwhp at "very high").
Bartman01
08-04-2003, 02:36 PM
Dont forget that superchargers rob power to make power (sometimes as much as 40-50%).
For example, assuming you want 430 HP at the flywheel, and the supercharer in questions only consumes about 40% of additional power:
Start with 260, add 170 with a supercharger = 430HP. However, the superchager is stealing 40% of it's total output to make the 170, so the engine is really being stressed as if it were making 284 or so additional HP. This make a true ouput of about 544 HP.
A turbo does not rob significant amounts of power, so add 170 HP with a turbo, and the engine is really only putting out ~430HP.
Don't know where the limits of the 2V are, and given Ford's produciton tolerances - just because one engine can do it doesn't mean yours can. If you can't afford to rebuild the engine you might want to rethink the power adder.
4.6Turbo
08-04-2003, 03:03 PM
Dont forget that superchargers rob power to make power (sometimes as much as 40-50%).
For example, assuming you want 430 HP at the flywheel, and the supercharer in questions only consumes about 40% of additional power:
Start with 260, add 170 with a supercharger = 430HP. However, the superchager is stealing 40% of it's total output to make the 170, so the engine is really being stressed as if it were making 284 or so additional HP. This make a true ouput of about 544 HP.
A turbo does not rob significant amounts of power, so add 170 HP with a turbo, and the engine is really only putting out ~430HP.
Don't know where the limits of the 2V are, and given Ford's produciton tolerances - just because one engine can do it doesn't mean yours can. If you can't afford to rebuild the engine you might want to rethink the power adder.
i need my car to hold strong for no more than a year TOPPS, ON STOCK BOTTOM END
Turbo
08-04-2003, 09:17 PM
if u dont go over 6-8 psi, and no more than 400 rwhp, id say your engine can make it a year or more with a safe tune, i wont speak for the drivetrain though, you might wanna beef it up a lil, however once the turbo is in place its easy to get that rwhp up when u can support it
FStop
08-04-2003, 11:48 PM
on a great tune, and pump gas you should be fine running around 400rwhp for a looong time. there are plenty of GT's running around putting over 400 to the wheels with a blower. doing it with a turbo will actually cause LESS stress on the engine. this being your first mod, good luck not frying your clutch/torque converter/ tranny tho :up:
R-code
08-05-2003, 04:04 AM
I'd imagine you could stretch out the motor's life by staying out of boost whenever possible :dunno:
The biggest variable when it comes to the life of an engine is the driver.
~R~
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